Why Tayshaun Prince won’t be a Piston next year

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Cast aside any qualms about the Chauncey Billups-for-Allen Iverson trade for a moment. Joe Dumars has done an excellent job as Pistons president.

Part of his shrewdness has been his ability to succeed with moves of any sort — draft picks, trades and signings have all shaped the franchise. The Thunder were built through the draft. The Celtics were built through trades. Detroit can’t be labeled like that.

But there appears to be one constant with Dumars’s moves. He gets rid of players who don’t perform in the playoffs.

In 2001-02, the Pistons secured the No. 2 seed, and the advanced to the second round for the first time in 11 years.

But they needed a full five games to beat the seventh-seeded Raptors in the first round. And they were no match for the Celtics in the second round. Dumars wasn’t satisfied.

The two starters who had the biggest drops in PER from the regular season to the playoffs lost their jobs. Jerry Stackhouse was traded to the Wizards for Richard Hamilton. And Chauncey Billups signed with Detroit, pushing Chucky Atkins to the bench.

And those aren’t the only postseason duds Dumars has jettisoned. Billups, Ben Wallace, Clifford Robinson, Corliss Williamson, Lindsey Hunter and Zeljko Rebraca left the Pistons after falling off in the playoffs.

Prince’s problems

And that brings us to Tayshaun Prince.

He has been absolutely atrocious against Cleveland. Prince is averaging 3.0 points, 2.0 rebounds and 1.5 assists in 32 minutes per game. He has shot 3-of-12 and not taken a free throw.

In game one, he primarily guarded LeBron James, who had 38 points, eight rebounds, seven assists and no turnovers in 41 minutes. Prince covered Delonte West more in game two. West scored 20 points on 12 shots.

And this isn’t an aberration. Prince’s once-spectacular defense has looked less than pedestrian this year.

By several metrics, Prince is the type of player Dumars moves after this season.

Three-year drop

Barring a miracle resurgence the rest of this series, Prince’s PER will have dropped from the regular season to the playoffs in each of the last three seasons.

That has happened to four Pistons in the Dumars era. Billups (9.9 combined drop) and Williamson (12.8 combined drop) were traded. Rasheed Wallace (8.7) and Richard Hamilton (7.3) had lower combined drops and stuck around.

Prince’s combined drop in the last three years is 18.4.

Big drop

Prince’s PER is down from 15 in the regular season to 0.3 in the playoffs (-14.7).

Since 2001-02, just two other starters have had their PER drop from the regular season to the playoffs by at least five — Stackhouse by 5.4 in 2002 and Ben Wallace by 5.2 in 2006.

Both were gone before the next season. (Richard Hamilton has a drop of 4.9 this year, so his future with Detroit could be in jeopardy, too).

Worse drop than last year

And Prince’s drop has gotten worse the last two years, from 1.5 to 14.7.

In the last nine years, seven players’ PER has dropped from the regular season to the playoffs in consecutive season, with the second drop being more than the first. Five of them were gone the next year.

Just Rasheed Wallace and Hamilton stayed with the team.

Value

What’s most intriguing about trading Prince is he still probably has value.

Although I don’t thin Prince could stop many small forwards, he has the hardest task in the league with LeBron. Some GMs might excuse his playoff shortcomings.

And Prince, who will turn 30 next season, isn’t far removed from being one of the league’s most promising players. He was as good as a role player could be. He defended, scored, passed and rebounded. He was even on the Olympic team.

It’s hard to erase that reputation quickly. Look at this John Hollinger column on defensive players. He gives Prince an honorable mention at small forward with this comment:

"Tayshaun Prince (+4.87) has been a fixture on this team in past years, but his adjusted plus-minus was terrible and it sure seemed as though guys had an easier time scoring on him than in the past."

The numbers indicated Prince has lost it. And if you’ve watched the Pistons consistently this year, you know it, too. But Hollinger is still slow to realize how far Prince has fallen. And I’m sure he’s not the only one.

A lot of people around the league seem to like Prince. There’s a solid chance Dumars is banking on that.

Regular-season vs. playoff PER

For a complete list of Pistons’ regular-season PER compared to their playoff PER since 2001-02, continue after the jump.

PlayerYearAgeReg. GReg. MPReg. PERPlayoff PERDiff.
Amir Johnson07-08206276417.523.25.7
Amir Johnson08-09216291113.512.2-1.3
Antonio McDyess04-053077179717.216.9-0.3
Antonio McDyess05-063182173315.517.92.4
Antonio McDyess06-073282172918.111.9-6.2
Antonio McDyess07-083378228514.115.11
Antonio McDyess08-093462186616.610.7-5.9
Arron Afflalo07-08227597010.26.7-3.5
Arron Afflalo08-09237412348.99.80.9
Ben Wallace01-022780292118.616.4-2.2
Ben Wallace02-032873287217.2202.8
Ben Wallace03-042981305017.318.61.3
Ben Wallace04-053074267117.416-1.4
Ben Wallace05-063182289017.512.3-5.2
Carlos Arroyo04-05254070610.710.6-0.1
Carlos Delfino05-06236872610.6-6.7-17.3
Carlos Delfino06-072482137212.89.6-3.2
Chauncey Billups02-032674232720.417.9-2.5
Chauncey Billups03-042778275818.618.80.2
Chauncey Billups04-052880286619201
Chauncey Billups05-062981292723.419-4.4
Chauncey Billups06-073070253321.318.6-2.7
Chauncey Billups07-083178252223.620.8-2.8
Chris Webber06-073343127716.916.8-0.1
Chucky Atkins01-022779228514.511-3.5
Chucky Atkins02-032865139810.19.9-0.2
Clifford Robinson01-023580285513.512-1.5
Clifford Robinson02-033681282512.49.2-3.2
Corliss Williamson01-02287817012015.4-4.6
Corliss Williamson02-032982206115.713.2-2.5
Corliss Williamson03-043079157414.48.7-5.7
Dale Davis05-0636281789.9-11.3-21.2
Dale Davis06-07374646413.25.9-7.3
Damon Jones01-022567108311.211.1-0.1
Dana Barros01-02342958210.51.9-8.6
Danny Manning02-0336138917.93.4-14.5
Darko Milicic03-0418341596.1-14.8-20.9
Darko Milicic04-0519372544.73.9-0.8
Darvin Ham03-0430544848.34.1-4.2
Darvin Ham04-0531472755.68.12.5
Elden Campbell03-04356589213.88.4-5.4
Elden Campbell04-0536303408.45.5-2.9
Jarvis Hayes07-0826821287137.1-5.9
Jason Maxiell06-07236794314.418.54.1
Jason Maxiell07-082482176816.715.1-1.6
Jason Maxiell08-092578140815.821.15.3
Jerry Stackhouse01-02277626851913.6-5.4
Jon Barry01-023282198517.715.7-2
Jon Barry02-033380147317.919.21.3
Juan Dixon07-08291724412.4-12.3-24.7
Kelvin Cato05-06314347.725.317.6
Kwame Brown08-09265899911.52.4-9.1
Lindsey Hunter03-04333366197.7-1.3
Lindsey Hunter04-05347611449.69.2-0.4
Lindsey Hunter05-06353035310.511.10.6
Lindsey Hunter06-07365274512.72.4-10.3
Lindsey Hunter07-0837242158.88.5-0.3
Maurice Evans05-06278011391422.88.8
Mehmet Okur02-032372136714.713.2-1.5
Mehmet Okur03-042471158018.314.7-3.6
Michael Curry01-02338219126.29.23
Michael Curry02-03347815565.74.7-1
Mike James03-04282651214.310.2-4.1
Nazr Mohammed06-07295177316.552.836.3
Rasheed Wallace03-04292267318.815.2-3.6
Rasheed Wallace04-053079268716.415.8-0.6
Rasheed Wallace05-063180278017.613.1-4.5
Rasheed Wallace06-073275241915.717.31.6
Rasheed Wallace07-083377234617.214.3-2.9
Rasheed Wallace08-093466212314.913.4-1.5
Richard Hamilton02-032482263918.716.8-1.9
Richard Hamilton03-042578277216.819.62.8
Richard Hamilton04-05267629261613.7-2.3
Richard Hamilton05-062780282518.215-3.2
Richard Hamilton06-072875276318.116.4-1.7
Richard Hamilton07-082972242418.2201.8
Richard Hamilton08-093067227916.912-4.9
Rodney Stuckey07-082157108113.814.50.7
Rodney Stuckey08-092279251714.813.6-1.2
Rodney White01-02211612911-33.6-44.6
Ronald Dupree04-05244747211.8-1.1-12.9
Ronald Murray06-072769147710.86.2-4.6
Tayshaun Prince02-03224243511.715.13.4
Tayshaun Prince03-042382270113.315.32
Tayshaun Prince04-052482303916.213.8-2.4
Tayshaun Prince05-062582289814.8172.2
Tayshaun Prince06-07268230011613.8-2.2
Tayshaun Prince07-082782269415.614.1-1.5
Tayshaun Prince08-0928823057150.3-14.7
Theo Ratliff07-08341622311.68.5-3.1
Tony Delk05-06322337816.111.4-4.7
Victor Alexander01-023215979.2-6.6-15.8
Walter Herrmann07-082828199141.6-12.4
Walter Herrmann08-09295963011.42614.6
Will Bynum08-09265780317.521.54
Zeljko Rebraca01-022974117916.28.5-7.7
Zeljko Rebraca02-033030488147.5-6.5