The Detroit Pistons and San Antonio Spurs used to be mainstays in the playoffs but are now locked in embarrassing losing streaks that may not end until they play each other.
When you add in the Wizards, you have a trio that has won just once in 55 combined games, and the one win was Washington beating Detroit.
So it couldn't hurt for all three teams to shake things up, and if you rearranged some of the pieces on the rosters, they might make more sense.
Recently, forward Keldon Johnson was mentioned as a possible trade target on San Antonio and is a guy the Pistons might have some interest in.
Johnson isn't great, but he can score, is a good locker-room guy and would at least give Detroit a more proven secondary scoring option. His numbers are down slightly this year, but he has averaged as many as 22 points per game and has shot 37 percent from long range this season on decent volume.
He's also on a favorable contract that actually drops from $19 million to $17.5 million over the next three seasons, so he could end up being great value for money, especially when you consider he's only 24 years old.
So what would it take to get him?
Pistons trading for Keldon Johnson
The Spurs need a point guard so any deal would likely start with Killian Hayes, though he's not going to be enough to land Johnson on his own.
This is where it gets tricky. Would the Spurs want a big expiring contract? Would they like a first-round pick? Both? There is a price point where Johnson wouldn't be worth it, but if we're talking Hayes, Joe Harris and a protected first-round pick, it's a deal the Pistons would probably consider.
Even if Johnson is out of their reach, the Spurs have another player in Doug McDermott who might interest Detroit. McDermott has long been one of the league's best shooters and is hitting nearly 47 percent from long range this season, albeit in limited action.
The Pistons should at least find out what it would take to trade for one or both of them, as they need more talent and shooting on the wing.